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WARNING! THIS HAS SPOILERS!

Also please respect that this is my opinion!! Please respect!
I have to say as a Yaoi fan I don't like Sebastian x Ciel……at all.


I don't like the whole Butler x Master thing. I hate when everyone goes "Oh there are so many hints that they like each other".

Not really....
Those are what we call in modern time "Fan service"

You guys have remember, Sebastian is a Demon, How they act to anyone is usually either very violent or can be sexual at times (which can also be an Incubus). Sebastian can't harm Ciel because in the contract he has to obey and not harm him until the contract is completed. So how he acts towards ciel is a natural way on how a demon goes really.( Sebastian can be indifferent and deliberately delays Ciel's wellbeing, as he frequently teases him and has put his life in mild danger for his own amusement. Once, he responded to Ciel's kidnapping as "terrible" but only because the tea he prepared would go to waste. He also calls Ciel a "brat" who treats his workers rudely) --- from his Bio

Also not to mention he was mad when Ciel slapped him in the face even though he did what he was suppose to do.

Another prove would be is that if he was to really love Ciel he would have been happy to stay with Ciel forever. Sure he has to starve forever but at least he would have been smiling with Ciel at the end. But No....He was pissed, because not only does he have to starve for all eternality but he can't even say anything else except for "yes my lord"
That's just plain sad.

the age is just wrong  Ciel is like 12-13 and Sebastian looks like a guy who is like 22 or 24 (yet he is 1,000 yrs old probably) That is just Wrong. In all honesty the series is way better how it is now then how it would be if it was yaoi, or Shounen-Ai or Shotca. The storyline doesn't really fit into any of the three

Now Ciel x Lizzy is the true pairing in the series. Yes we all know that Lizzy's Voice is freaking annoying at that she broke Ciel Ring. But remember she was very sad to have broken the ring and actually try to buy Ciel a ring that looks almost like his old one so he can forgive her. Lizzy is actually a very sweet girl who only wants to make Ciel smile. She is also his fiancée. The manga shows more Ciel x Lizzy moments then the anime. In the Manga when Ciel was little and playing with Lizzy he did said to her "I am actually glad you are my fiancée" He also blushes and tries his best not to make her cry in the anime and the manga. When she smiles and he notices that she is trying hard to make him happy, he blushes and does really care for her. He almost said that in the manga but Sebastian was with him and he didn't want to show him that he was weak (you know Ciel has to keep his reputation as being a serious person) He does care for her....He even dance with her (without no one telling him too) in the last episode before he left. In the Manga he show's feeling towards her.

The Manga has more story line then the anime and plus it came first before the anime (Duh!!)

So yes Lizzy can be annoying but at least their love for each other is more real. Even though they were told to be married by their parents they do really love each other. Plus Lizzy is badass in the manga. Also if you look at it Sebastian does support the two , he finds it amusing how Ciel acts towards Lizzy

Now IF Kuroshitsuji was a Yaoi anime THEN SebbyCiel would make sense. But it's not so no.

If you still like SebbyxCiel I will respect that but please remember that I am a fan of CielxLizzy and you have to respect that as well.
Sorry if there is Spelling grammer and errors

I don't care if Yana toboso is a yaoi artists, I don't care if she like cielSebby and made a prototype of Kuroshitsuji that was Shotca , and I don't care if there is fan service

Kuroshitsuji is NOT Yaoi nor shounen-ai nor SHOTCA!!!!

Stop following the anime!!!! Follow the manga!!!.
Now I am not saying u can't like that pairing, you can if u want but stop shoving it down people throats mainly to the people who hate it. Not all but a lot of Sebastian x Ciel fans go WAAAAAAY to overboard! I love Yaoi (duh my name says it all) but I don't force it down peopleís throats

Also stop basing on the nun and beast just because Sebastian did them. Stop going "oh kill her! She is in the way of sebbyciel!" OK first of all..No they are not!!! Also here is the number one thing you guys should know about Sebastian ...

He doesn't love Ciel!!!!! He said that he finds Ciel an arrogant BRAT! HE ONLY CARES FOR HIS SOUL!!!

Also Lizzy is not in the way of sebbyciel. Lizzy is a sweet, cute and a strong girl! Yes she can get annoying! But we all were that annoying when we were little. Lizzy sacrificed her beauty and cuteness for Ciel; she tried to act cute and happy because she remembers Ciel saying when they were very little that he was happy that she wasnít like her mom which was a strong woman. He even said he was glad he was going to marry her and even when Lizzy killed those zombies and ask Ciel that if he hated her Ciel was going to say ďI would never hate youĒ But of course got embarrassed because Sebastian was listening and then started to laugh at him.

Ciel does love Lizzy, there are so many hints. When she broke his ring, yes he was going to slap her until Sebastian stop him, but he threw his ring away and so she didnít have to be worried about it. He told her that he didnít like to see her cry in a calm way and he even dance with her. He will do anything to make her happy.

Sebastian in the other hand is quite heartless, sadistic, and malicious.

What ever happened to the time where fans only cared about the story and not the pairings?

All in all I am tired of the overly obsessive yaoi fans that will take anything even if its small and make it yaoi.. Itís annoying.
Plus itís sad that a lot of people hate the actual canon pairing which is Ciel x Lizzy.


Also Please and i mean PLEASE not hate comments. If you disapprove of this please state facts and respectful reasons

Like i said early I dont mind of you like the SebbyxCiel I will respect that but please dont go overbored.
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PhantomhiveSenpai Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2015  New Deviant Student General Artist
THANK YOU SOMEONE FINALLY UDERSTANDS!!!!!!!!*cries with joy*
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Lol well someone had to preach lol
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PhantomhiveSenpai Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2015  New Deviant Student General Artist
well yeah ;) haha
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littlemisslockheart Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
YES! FINALLY!! Thank you! :heart:
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Lol no problem:3
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Boohoo problem :3
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UsagiTsukino12 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you! Finally ppl who ship CielXLizzy !! Thank you so much for this epic post! I love u so much right now for it I completely agree with everything ur saying CielXLizzy forever Finally ppl who won't hate me for shipping it! ^^
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015  Student Digital Artist
Lol its stupid that people will really hate someone just because they don't like a pairing. For god sakes its just an anime lol. But awwwwwwww I love all my fellow supporters of this adorable pairing! :iconcuteplz:
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abayruns1999 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014
Thank you for this.  I could not have said it better myself.  CielxLizzy is meant to beLove 
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Daaaamn straight
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abayruns1999 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014
It is nice to find people who see things from my point of view.
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Lol same XD
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ScrambledRamblings Featured By Owner May 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So. I wanted to write a comment here, but it turned into an essay, so I posted it as a journal on my dA lol Have fun~
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xhirarii Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I don't mind people shipping them together...
But I can't do it myself...
I ship LizzyxCiel because they adorable!
Besides like you said Sebastian doesn't care for Ciel other than his soul, and some entertainment.
I am also kind of sick with the obsessive yaoi fans...
I just cant stomach CielxSebastian, because of the age gap.
It is kinda creepy.
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queenofcielfangurls Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
thank you. just. thank you. you basically explained exactly why i dont particularly favor them.

Plus Ciel honestly just sees him as a pawn and like you said sebatian basically sees him as food.

I totally agree with you on that one.
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PrincessOfDucks Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013
Yay! I'm not the only one!
Aaand I love CielxLizzy <3
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briar-rosethorn Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who is actually disgusted by CielxSebastian. I do think Sebastian and Ciel care a great deal about each other but not in a romantic/sexual way. I really like them as a platonic pairing but that's it. It's also worth mentioning that Sebastian's human form looks a great deal like Ciel's birth father and throughout both the anime and manga, most (if not all) of the more tender moments between Ciel and Sebastian happen in moments when Sebastian is taking care of Ciel almost like a parent would. Just two examples of this kind of parent/child affection would be when Sebastian rescues him from the drug lords and carries him back home and Mey-Rin comments that Ciel looks like a little baby in Sebastian's arms, and when Sebastian fights Ash and tells Ciel to close his eyes like a parent would tell their child to look away from something traumatic going on. I'll admit that there are a lot of signs that these two care for each other but honestly, put it in perspective. Ciel lost his parents and was left alone with nothing but his bitterness and desire for revenge... and his butler at his side. It makes sense that Ciel would become very attached to the only constant source of protection in his life. After all, he's just a 12 year old kid, even if it's easy for us to forget that at times. All in all, Ciel and Sebastian have more of a parent-child relationship than anything else and I agree with this post that the manga does a much better job of making clear that Ciel is and always has been in love with Lizzy.
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orangeRina Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013
wow finally! I thought I was the only one who saw it as only fan-service! It pisses me off when is being more often then not categorized as shonen ai\yaoi. I agree with most of the stuff you wrote except maybe the age thing being wrong, but that's just a matter of personal taste (talking fictionally of course).
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craziestfreakinoo Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I OBJECT!




Sebby's 3000 yrs old ^v^

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND



I LOVE cielxlizzy THEY WERE FRIKKIN MEANT TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hopefully i wish lizzy become a demon and goes to look for ciel!!!!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner May 21, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Lmao! I got scared for a sec when u said object.

Lizzy and.Ciel are Canon so yeah lol
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XxMoonlight-1-WishxX Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
OMG ANOTHER CIELIZZY FAN!!!


Finally! Somebody agrees with me on the whole Sebbyciel issue! Lizzy deserves more respect for fans and they need to realize what a strong female role model she is!


Well I do like Sebastian but meh... Everyone treats him like a big pedo bishie these days...-.- I will admit, I did enjoy a bit of the OVA episodes and a bit of the first season despite the ending. But once I finished season 2, that's when I started to dislike the anime series. Why the hell would they bring out a big Gary-Stu copy of ciel and his new pedo butler as a new story?! That's just plain stupid and I was hoping they would have the Noah's Ark circus instead. But of course mangas and animes are always different due to plots. Alois and Claude just made the fandom even more worse with all the bishie fan service.:no:



I actually read one of the books before I saw the anime and chapter 1 was a little boring. But when I read the other books it started to interested more! I always liked it better when they start the story dull into very juicy plots! And I loved how there wasn't much fanservice and a bit less bishie-ness and more badassery!


You mam made my day!:heart:
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Writer
O_O Poor yukina, she is my oc who falls for him, maybe gets with him or maybe she stays dead, still deciding her fate. Sorry for that spoiler. Er please please read/comment on my story, its called kh: shattered memories. ^^ Yes there will be lizzyxCiel, I love that pairing too. Oh yuki is 16 for now!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I will see it if I have time (yeah lizzyxciel =w=) lol its OK. Besides I'm working on my manga black maid (u can say its like the female version but more darker) plus the characters from black Butler are not in it so yeah its a whole knew setting. I will be honest not comfortable with her being 16 paired with an adult (I know he is a demon but he looks like man to be either 22-25) but I will still read it
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Writer
Ohhhh, I can't wait to read that! Sweet! Ikr, its wrong, its a deep infatuation too, that's
How these romances start out. So true! Don't worry, she will at first think sebastian is weird, and confused as to why she is blushing. After a two year time skip she might have deeper feelings. Hn, trying to make this romance work the right way. :3 (huggles) Yeaaaa! But I can see where you're coming from. It seems so wrong for me too! Like cielxSebastian, I hate that pairing, plus ciel loves Lizzy!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
It’s sad that if the artist would have kept it shotca it wouldn’t be well notice since its only sold in adult stores in japan. But now since its famous people want it to be….ewww…

Ok that makes more sense since she will be 18. Also be careful because you will have idiots and jerks tell you “No CeilxSebby” which is a very stupid thing to say since the couple isnt really official even though it could have been but still. Please the artist like CielxLizzy as well so ha!


Yeah I have my own page for that its here ->:icontheblacksymbol: Not much is up since I have to redo everything and I will officially make it into a manga book or whatever and sell it once Im done with the first volume. I am working at Profiles at the moment
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Writer
Most people are sick, gross! I'd rather have Sebastian end up with Yukina, at least she is older than Ciel. I hate people who love SebbyxCiel and ship them.

Yea, I'm glad it does! Uuuuugh, I want to punch those jerks, you can help me! XD! Yeah, plus CielxLizzy is cannon and they love each other from what I've seen since the zombie arc, LOL I need to reread those awesome chapters. Right now I'm role playing with a friend to help me with my kuroshitsuji chapters. Yukina will help Ciel save lizzy from zombies! Have you read the other chapters so far? Sorry chapter 9 is taking forever! (Hugs)
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Its funny they claim they dont support pedophiles XD!! but yet your support this.....>.>...ODD lol

Hell yes I will lol. Well to the people who love SxC they arent a canon but they really are. Yes I have but you will have to read them since I dont spoil stories ;)
But Lizzy saves herself in the story thought but you can have her help them kill zombies
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Writer
LMAO! Ikr! XD! Hnn, I adore AnkoxOrochimaru, that's not really pedo, so that's cool! I love kakashi to either be with shizune or have Rin revived from Naruto!

Thank God they are not! If they were then, what about Lizzy? Kyaaa! Kk! Sorry for spoiling mine, I just get over excited! >w< Of course! I will try to stick to the manga as much as possible! XD!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Its not since she is already a adult. So do I ^^

Awesome!
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Writer
I whole heartedly agree! I love lizzy but not the anime version. She kicks zombie ass in the epic manga. I never ever liked cielxSebatian that's just wrong. I love sebby with my oc only. (Hugs)
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Lol yes a person who too also understands me. Personally I don't care what people say to me that its just cartoon, anything that represents pedophile I hate
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Writer
Yeaaaa! :D Yes, same here! XD I do like grellxSebastian, they are just too cuuuute!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Eh I am more of a ClaudexSebastian
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Writer
Weird to me, I just never thought of them that way, it would be super cool to see that!
:3 Hey, please watch me, I asked you on the other account too on your page! I just hope and pray that you and others would love my story enough to watch me. Read and review my chapters, then thirst for more!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
lol oh yes *drool*

Lol ok I will but Im not going to watch someone because they are asking me too XD. I usually watch ppl with something they do amuses me or that they are cool to talk with. But I will watch you and read your story. I will be very honest when reading lol but dont worry I am not harsh ^^

But Yeah I just watched you now
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Snowflower--Chan00 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   Writer
I feel the same way, sorry for asking I know that was selfish of me, but I want to impress you and other people, so they will watch me! I hope I amuse you soon. Idk how, but I will try my best! Yea! Again really really really sorry for asking and being rude! Can't wait to read your comments, I hope he chapters will be great! As for punctuation, grammer errors go, I can't get someone to fix them for now, because my laptop died, and I'm stuck with this stupid tablet. Plus it takes a friend on Fanfiction.net to return the chapter back to me, forever. I will have the chapters fixed whenever I get a new laptop!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Alright^^
Also Black Butler is going to have a live action movie thats based 130 years after the manga....Sebastian is in it but people dont know about Ciel. sure far its going to suck since Sebastian hair is going to be curly
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ArstyAnthropologist Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THANK YOU THE MANGA IS SO MUCH BETTER AND CIELLIZZY FTW!
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yuki109 Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
i think of Sebastian being more of a dad or a big brother then a lover and i agree and i disagree with you about cielxsebby :)
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Same as see them as friends. But I respect all opinions so I'm cool with what you think :3
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Earthbound-Addict Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay the only reason why Lizzy is around is because the producer said no to the idea of SebbyxCiel. If that asshole hadn't said no there wouldn't be any retarded fucking Lizzy... There would also be more SebbyxCiel hints too. And in the Kuroshitsuji musical Lizzy didn't even exist! [link] Ciel x Lizzy is not canon in any way...
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Whao whao enough with the language. OK first off in the musical that can't promote anything pedophile since its strictly forbidden in Japan not only that the editor isn't stupid and I'm glad he said no because SebbxCiel promotes pedophiles. There is a real organization called Nambla that is trying to make it legal for adults to have sex with kids which its wrong. Fantasy or not it is still wrong for an adult demon or not to be with a child. I am not being very mean to you so please don't be mean to me. I find it scary and sad that people find it cute to see an anime or cartoon about a adult doing a child. That's the reason why I am starting to hate anime. I am also very hurt the way you approach me, I don't go to sebbyxciel groups and bash them. So please don't do the same. The artist Yana even said it her blog (my cousin can read Japanese) that she likes Ciel and Lizzy as well but of course still love Ciel x Sebby which is scary for an adult to love adultxchild relationship.
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Earthbound-Addict Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I apologize for the negative approach. I was in a terrible mood in that moment I saw your post. I don't promote pedophiles, I just enjoy that one couple. And I like BoyxBoy better then BoyxGirl. Though I also like CielxAlois, GrellxUndertaker, and SebbyxGrell, which aren't pedo couples. Again, I apologize for how I bashed you. I realize how childish it was to do that. I will respect your opinion even if I don't like the couple.
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Thank you very much for understanding and I understand as well. I will also respect your opinion as well. I too like boyxboy a lot (my username say it all) but to me there is a certain limits. But again I understand very clearly and I thank you for understanding as well
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LacrimosaMaiden Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is amazing. <3
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Really?? thanks!
love your icon BTW
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LacrimosaMaiden Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome, and thank you. :3
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Fabi-ren Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
you´re right!! ;u; dear God, you´re amazingly right!!! I LUUUV YOU!!!
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DomoDC Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
:iconiloveyoutooplz: thank you
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GrandChaseaddictxD Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Student Digital Artist
OMG. YOU UNDERSTAND.
YOUR SO DAMN RIGHT.
I LOVE YOU.
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i finally. met. someone. who understands us. completely. ;u;
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